Australian Adventure Activity Standards - Canyoning

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AJAllchin
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Australian Adventure Activity Standards - Canyoning

Post by AJAllchin » 01 Nov 2018, 22:11

Hello,

Mid-October a draft "Canyoning Good Practice Guide" was released for public consultation. Details can be found on the below website and submissions can be made up until the 12th November.

http://yoursay.australianaas.org.au/canyoning/

For those who've been the Australian Adventure Activity Standards (AAAS) saga (over 3 years in development now), there's been some naming changes and "Good Practice Guides" (GPGs) have been introduced. See here - http://australianaas.org.au/australian- ... sept-2018/

Interesting to know what peoples thoughts are. I find it a bit overwhelming as a document, and feel that all the MUSTs create a multitude of points where I can fail to meet the standard, and this subsequently be held against me if something goes wrong.

I much prefer the current Canyoning Adventure Activity Standard which is specific to NSW and was developed with much input from the recreational community. See - http://outdoorsnsw.org.au/wp-content/up ... ALKING.pdf

Alex.



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Re: Australian Adventure Activity Standards - Canyoning

Post by Flynny » 02 Nov 2018, 15:14

I've put submissions from myself and Gabby on my site if anyone wants a bit of a guide or a review of our concerns


https://sleepwhenwearedead.wordpress.co ... ice-guide/

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Re: Australian Adventure Activity Standards - Canyoning

Post by T2 » 05 Nov 2018, 14:22

Thanks for sharing that Alex. I've been putting off reading the latest version of this because I just haven't had the time or energy. But with submissions closing so soon I really should do so.

Putting your Bushwalking NSW hat on for a moment, do you know if there will be a submission from the peak body, or are they leaving it to individual clubs who engage in canyoning to respond? Either way, has there been correspondence with affiliated outdoor clubs to get their feedback on this?

As a general rule, I'm very uncomfortable with additional red tape and bureaucracy. As a general rule, the kind of groups who run into serious problems due to major failures by those leading the trip are not experienced club members or commercial guides. They are simply groups of friends going out for an adventure. So while the rest of us get tangled up in red tape and best practice guidelines, potentially making it harder to run trips or increasing the legal risk (or fear of legal risk) for trip leaders, the numpties that get into trouble will carry on oblivious to these guide even existing.

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Re: Australian Adventure Activity Standards - Canyoning

Post by Flynny » 05 Nov 2018, 19:04

T2 wrote:
05 Nov 2018, 14:22
So while the rest of us get tangled up in red tape and best practice guidelines, potentially making it harder to run trips or increasing the legal risk (or fear of legal risk) for trip leaders, the numpties that get into trouble will carry on oblivious to these guide even existing.
While I'm not sure I totally agree with the comments re club v non-club groups the other thing that it may well do is push people away from clubs, I mean why go through all that read tape to lead a club trip when I can just head out with my mates. This could well lead to a loss of experience sharing, for want of a better term.

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